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#210604 - 05/04/21 06:58 AM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: BBwheelgunner]
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 Originally Posted By: BBwheelgunner
Vance
If you were interested in the .475 Speer in the 400gr flavor, I got mine right from the Speer website. they have it listed still, but it is currently sold out like everything right now.


I will be keeping my eyes open
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#210642 - 05/14/21 07:57 PM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
Recovered Sierra bullet from Gary Reeders Cape buffalo. Weight is 288grs.....

I never thought I would see one of these bullets even remotely expanded. any idea on the velocity he got on that load?

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#210645 - 05/15/21 12:15 PM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: LABRAT]
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PER loaddata.com THE LOAD's MV WOULD HAVE BEEN LOW 1,400's. GARY USED A BORROWED REVOLVER FROM BEARSKINNER, WHO HAS NOT CHRONO'ed THE LOAD BUT HAS BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH ITS ACCURACY AND PERFORMANCE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS BULLET HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED.
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#210647 - 05/15/21 01:17 PM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: 45MAN]
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Sierra still lists them on their website. They are out of stock now, unfortunately like most other bullets. They are backordered on every legitimate seller of handloading components too. Hopefully, later this summer, they'll be available to us shooters again.
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#210765 - 05/30/21 04:35 AM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: Franchise]
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Something that has me puzzled is how did he use a 7 1/2" revolver, I thought the minimum barrel length was now 8". Anyway, me & some others are headed to Africa soon & I'll be taking my bisley 45 that I just had re barreled with an 8 1/2" because we were told that was the law in South Africa, plus all six guns have to be scoped. That was the law when I was there last time, the only difference was you could take 3 guns & now you can only take two.
Anyway I'll be using strictly cast bullets, same thing I've used for the last 50+ years & over 100 head of game, I hope they still work. In the bisley 45 I'll use a 306 gr LBT solid of my own alloy as my primary bullet & also a 282 gr HP in certain cases depending on the animal.
I won't be shooting Buffalo or any other dangerous game so I don't expect to recover any bullets, I seldom ever do. My other gun will be a Ruger 10.5" 357 Maximum using 182 gr LBT solids, again made from my own alloy & running about 1600 fps.
I don't know the velocities on the 45, I don't have the gun back yet, I'll pick it up in a few days when I get to the NRA Center in Raton, NM. I know from past experience on moose & several elk that these bullets always exit & I've never had to shoot one twice.
Using the solids I've shot them through live 7" Quaken Aspens with an exit & also shot them through 9 water jugs so they should work just fine on Kudu, Nyala, Zebra, Sable, etc.
That was quite an accomplishment by Gary Reeder, to borrow a gun & knock off a possible world record Cape Buffalo, hope he gets his guns back!

Dick

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#210766 - 05/30/21 05:06 AM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: sixshot]
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If someone knows for sure I would really like to know about the 8" barrel requirement in South Africa. Did Gary really use a 7 1/2" barrel? If so I would like to take my FA 7 1/2" 41 magnum but not if it isn't allowed. Any help here would be appreciated, thanks!

Dick

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#210767 - 05/30/21 09:04 AM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: sixshot]
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Not sure where you got the idea that there was a restriction on barrel length or a requirement for a scope. I hunted South Africa in 2014 and used 71/2" barrel SRH. I believe the regulations only stipulate that the revolver is designed for hunting and not personal defense. The scope goes towards being designed for hunting but I don't believe its mandatory. (I used a reflex type sight).

However, if I was going in the near future I'd be contacting one of the specialty firearm permit services eg Gracy Travel, Rifle Permits etc and get up to date informed advice.

ps Paying one of these services to process your permits and provide a meet and greet service prevents a lot of problems. Also gets you through SA Police check in a few minutes rather than hours. Best money you can spend.

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#210768 - 05/30/21 12:29 PM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: Walkingthemup]
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Yes, you need at least an 8 barrel and a sight ( not open) scope, dot etc. No semi autos. The FA83 used by the two gentlemen in Africa has a 9 1/4 barrel. OAL. This is South Africa, SAPS legal. ( to obtain a permit) Other countries may be different, and may change at will.
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#210769 - 05/30/21 02:19 PM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: bearskinner]
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Thanks bearskinner, so does that mean from the front of the frame to the end of the barrel was 7 1/2' but the overall length was 9 1/4", making it legal?
Debbie Gracy was in Zimbawbe yesterday when she called me & we didn't have very good reception so it was kind of muddled.
Hopefully I hear from her today & thanks again for the help.

Dick

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#210770 - 05/30/21 04:34 PM Re: Cape Buffalo Bullet [Re: sixshot]
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The OAL of the barrel, including the permanent brake.
Remember, just because this is the legal requirements this year, who knows what requirements may be asked for next year!
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