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#209109 - 11/17/20 05:14 PM Aperture vs Reflex (dot)
Memtb460
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Actually, it?s a two fold question. I?m using a S&W 460 XVR 8 3/8?). I presently have a Burris Fastfire 3, 3 moa. It?s a bit bulky on a handgun, I?m concerned about it?s ruggedness, and I?m a bit slow putting it into use ( pushing the button, ect).

For big game hunting purposes, which sight do you think would best serve me ....the reflex sight or a ?Ghost Ring? type sight?

If the consensus is the Aperture, any recommendations on a sight that will merely replace the S&W rear sight?

Thanks in advance, memtb


Edited by Memtb460 (11/17/20 05:15 PM)
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#209110 - 11/17/20 06:17 PM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: Memtb460]
Teep
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I've never used an aperture on a handgun but on a rifle I thought that they were not very good in low light or trying to find game against a dark background. I really like the reflex sights on my handguns (Vortex Venoms) and I turn them on when I start a hunt and leave them on till I'm done. Over three years on one battery on the oldest one. How anything will hold up on a 460 is anyone's guess. I would say go torture it and find out.

Wait a minute, your packing a huge 460 and you think the Burris is bulky? (Sorry, just couldn't help myself.)


Edited by Teep (11/17/20 06:20 PM)

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#209113 - 11/17/20 08:45 PM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: Teep]
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I have tried a ghost ring on my 454 SRH. Its quite fast but for me its not great for accuracy. I believe this varies a lot from individual to individual. The only way you'll know is try one.

I also have a Burris Fastfire 3 mounted on the SRH. Delivers good accuracy out to about 125 meters (probably more with a better gun & shooter). Turn it on at the start of the day and switch it off when finished. Don't try only switching it on just before the shot, the game will move off before you can take your shot.

Two downsides:

I find it much slower to line up (ie finding the dot problem) than iron sights.

The Fastfire 3 has a auto turn off after about 8 hours. Once you know about it you can accommodate the issue by turning it off then on half way through the day.

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#209114 - 11/17/20 08:45 PM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: Teep]
kalhoon
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If you do not like the Burris there are lots of options.I would take a reflex over ghost ring any time.

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#209129 - 11/18/20 03:07 AM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: kalhoon]
Memtb460
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Thanks guys! I kinda figured that the reflex sight would be superior, but, thought I?d ask for a few opinions. Though, I will continue to be apprehensive about it?s reliability!

Teep, I guess that was a bit of an oxymoron. I guess what I was trying to suggest....it just seems out of place on a revolver, and seems to be hanging out there waiting to get hit by something.

Walkingthemup, Thanks for the tips on usage of the Fastfire. I certainly agree about trying to turn it on prior to use....it usually takes me a couple of attempts, and is impossible with gloves. I wasn't aware of the 8 hour feature, that will be quite beneficial ...maybe I should try reading the ?destructions?!

Thanks again to all! memtb
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#209140 - 11/18/20 01:29 PM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: Memtb460]
Teep
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I have to agree they look a little fragile but they do have a life time guarantee. The great thing with the 460 is you can still have the open sights on it so if something happens to the red dot it can quickly be removed and you still have a sighting system.

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#209167 - 11/19/20 05:18 PM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: Teep]
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You can always try a Trijicon if you don't think the Burris will hold up. RMR's have been really reliable for me. And I practiced pulling the revolver up and getting the dot on target, get's easier after awhile.

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#209168 - 11/19/20 07:39 PM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: RBO21]
Drycreek3189
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I have three reflex sights, a Vortex Venom, and two Leupold Delta Points. I much prefer the Delta Points. They ?go to sleep? when they are immobile and instantly come on when the gun is moved. That?s a great feature as far as I?m concerned. As for finding the dot, I find it much easier if I just try to find the sights and then the dot finds me. It?s not quite as easy to begin with but practice helps. Good luck whatever you choose !

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#209174 - 11/20/20 01:33 PM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: Drycreek3189]
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I have FastFires on everything from .22 to .45 colt and am very pleased with them. I tried the ghost ring on a couple of revolvers like Walkingthemup said, accuracy was not great past about 25 yards.
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#209196 - 11/22/20 01:27 PM Re: Aperture vs Reflex (dot) [Re: longhunter]
bluecow
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I have aperture sights (one ragged hole) on my SBH with a green fiber optic sight on front. Also have the aperture single six. I LOVE EM. Apertures are out of the way, rugged, you don't need batteries, or special holsters. They can take some getting used to for those used to shooting with "regular" sight. No need to center or line up the front sight with the rear and doing so only create trouble. Ignore the aperture sight, your eye will center the sight for you with NO EFFORT on your part,line up the front sight with target and pull trigger. Word of caution about a pet peeve, As you are to ignore the aperture sight don't get one that glows in the dark, fiber optic, painted wild colors....you don't need anything that will draw your attention to it. Warren Custom Outdoor has them ( one ragged hole is no longer in business)for about $30 for BFR and Ruger. JMHO at that price its worth it just to play with them and the experience.


Edited by bluecow (11/22/20 01:30 PM)
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