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#202537 - 10/12/19 07:01 PM Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes
Memtb460
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OK, not to create turmoil, but would like the opinions of those that hunt big game. While I did a bit of handgun hunting ?many? years ago, being youthful and over zealous, I would probably take ?less than? completely ethical shots. Fast forward, I?m trying to get back into handgun hunting. Handgun: X Frame 460, from shooting sticks. So....what size groups (3 shot) should I consider acceptable for: #1deer/antelope and #2 elk? This group size will help me determine what should be my personal range limits. Thanks, memtb
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#202538 - 10/12/19 07:44 PM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: Memtb460]
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My old BFR would do less than 6" at 100yds with irons and a 335gr hcgc at 1700fps. I would have felt comfortable on elk to 150yds with it.


Edited by Willicd76 (10/12/19 07:46 PM)

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#202542 - 10/12/19 08:30 PM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: Willicd76]
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Many years ago I read at whatever distance you can keep you shots inside a 8" paper plate you will be able to put them in the vital area of whitetail... Its worked for me. The best of luck on your hunt.....
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#202562 - 10/13/19 10:17 AM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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I don?t accept accuracy. I expect it. Far too many folks settle and I think it?s one of the reasons handgun hunting is looked at sideways.

I?ve been down this rabbit hole before on here. There are differing opinions on acceptable accuracy and what it takes to achieve it. My standards are higher than some.
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#202563 - 10/13/19 10:19 AM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: Zee]
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I agree with James.

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#202570 - 10/13/19 02:09 PM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: RSW]
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Depends on the shooter and gun/sight combo. I hunted for years and was quite successful with a scoped Ruger Super Redhawk in .44 Magnum. It was sighted in at 100 yards and from a rest, I could keep 5-shots in a 2-3" group.

Lately, I've been hunting with T/C Contenders. In fact, I just got back from the range shooting a .44 Magnum and 7-30 Waters. These are the groups I strive for hunting.

14" T/C Contender in .44 Magnum, shooting 240gr XTP over H110. First shots were low, then I adjusted a bit too high. Last group was dead on.


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14" T/C Contender in 7-30 Waters, shooting 139gr SST and Varget. Low drops were me, but the rest are dead on.


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[img]http://i.imgur.com/rzNo2Jk.jpg?1[/img]


Edited by Steve in PA (10/13/19 02:15 PM)

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#202572 - 10/13/19 05:29 PM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: Zee]
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 Originally Posted By: Zee
I don?t accept accuracy. I expect it. Far too many folks settle and I think it?s one of the reasons handgun hunting is looked at sideways.

I?ve been down this rabbit hole before on here. There are differing opinions on acceptable accuracy and what it takes to achieve it. My standards are higher than some.


I agree completely! For me my big bore handguns must keep everything within a 3" circle at 50 yards, for rimfires it's 1 1/2" at 35 yards. Anything less and I'll sell the damn thing.
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#202574 - 10/13/19 06:15 PM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: longhunter]
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#202576 - 10/13/19 07:56 PM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: Ernie]
Memtb460
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Thanks! Some of you helped answer the question, which perhaps was poorly stated. I?m trying to determine what is considered an ethical kill zone size, at expected revolver velocities, on the questioned animals. This in turn will help me determine what is ?my? ethical range....be that range 5 yards or 150 yards! Thanks for any and all info in helping determine what the kill zone size to be! memtb


Edited by Memtb460 (10/13/19 07:59 PM)
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#202584 - 10/13/19 09:21 PM Re: Acceptable Group Size for Hunting Purposes [Re: Memtb460]
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If you ask 10 different hunters, you'll get 10 different responses. The most commonly quoted one I've seen is keeping a full magazine/cylinder of shots on an 8-10" paper plate with the same type of rest as you'll have in the field, the maximum range at which you can do this being your personal maximum.
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