#101169 - 01/23/12 06:37 PM
Re: .460 Rowland
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That 'tool' looks handy. I don't know whether the spring is needed or not, but I went ahead and put mine in since it only takes a minute. I like the velocities you're getting with Longshot and the 250's. Thanks for the report.
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#101173 - 01/23/12 06:48 PM
Re: .460 Rowland
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Loaded up 4 at 9.3 gr and got 1143, 1171, 1150 and 1151. Used my Hornady powder thrower but checked each load on scale and it was spot on for all 4 loads. Yesterday it was not spot on for some reason. No signs of pressure. Think I will stick with this load for now. Next I will do some target shooting to see how it shoots.
Recoil is very mild by my standards, but I think you know what I am used to. 
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#101239 - 01/24/12 11:00 AM
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Hank,
Great news, and things look good. The new firing pin spring is included with all Wolff recoil springs that they sell that are rated above factory. They are "needed" to keep the firing pin from slamming against the primer under the recoil/return of the heavier recoil spring. I never tested to see if it was happening with the stock firing pin spring, I just install them and be done with it. Not a lot of reason not to.
You might find that you do not need the tools to install the Wolff spring now that you have fired it a few times. The spring will take about a half inch of set now, so it should be easier. Your loads mirror mine pretty closely, so hopefully you will find them to be very accuarte. Keep us posted.
As to the bullet setback, it is important to check the first round in the magazine, and at least the last, as these two positions can be different. The same if trying a different brand of magazine, as different brands usually have different followers and lip geometry.
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#101290 - 01/24/12 03:52 PM
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I changed out the firing pin spring today and shot 4 rounds at a target just to see where the fixed sights are shooting . Shot a little over an inch group, but I was not concentrating, about 3 in low at 20 yds. I can correct for that untiil I get some adjustable sights by putting the 3 dots in a triangle and be pretty close.
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#101412 - 01/25/12 09:42 AM
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Hank,
I figured you would be happy with the accuracy of the Clark unit. All of mine have been great. If I could only get this Colt barrel to perform the same. I fire lapped it last weekend, and the bore is looking pretty good, but I think it will never be a quality tight group shooter. Perhaps I should just fit a Clark 45 acp barrel to the gun and be done with it. But where's the fun it that.....
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#101414 - 01/25/12 09:47 AM
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And 'fun' is the real reason most of us 'play'.
Hadn't got to shoot mine, yet. Babysitting sick grandkids takes prioity over grandpa's playing, just ask grandma.
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#101466 - 01/25/12 06:26 PM
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Tried some Montana Bullet Works 250 gr WFN today set at 1.210 today. First one at 9.3 gr and got about 1230 fps. I then loaded 2 with 9 gr. First one was 1173 fps and I ejected the second one to check for setback. It had a little gouge on the side if the bullet and had moved back about .005. I shot it and it went 1190 fps.
I think that it is going to be hard to WFN bullets to feed without set back. I wonder if not only the shape of the bullet but the bullet lube contributes to the problem.
I have Dave Clements Ruger Old Army 50 Cal cap & Ball conversion and the only way I could get the bullets to stay still under recoil was to wipe as much of the bullet lub as I could off the side of the bullets. I then would load it with wonder wads under the bullet for some extra lube.
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#101467 - 01/25/12 06:30 PM
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Hadn't got to shoot mine, yet.
I really enjoy it now that I live out of the city limits on an acreage so I can test with out having to go to the range.
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#101469 - 01/25/12 06:54 PM
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Hank,
The WFN's can be hard to feed period. As the nose has to bounce off the feed ramp (if you are lucky just the case side will hit the ramp), then bounce of the top of the chamber, it is a rough ride. Not sure if you have other brands of 1911 mags or someone who could let you test drive a different brand, sometimes a different mag with different feed lip geometry might feed better. Much like Wilson mags have what is loosely called wad cutter lips, they release the cartridge base typically sooner than the traditional Colt feed lips. Not sure I would go out and spend money to test, as it will be a crap shoot. generally Colt style mags are called tapered, and the Wilson and others would be called parallel or wad cutter style, in case you want to ask any buddies for a test drive.
A 250 at 1230 would seem to me to be pretty darn close to max pressure. I would definately be very concerned about setback at that level, as you probably have very little wiggle room.
And when you rub in your home shooting range, proper etiquette requires some amount of tongue protrusion......At least it explains why you can load 4 at a time to test.
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