Thank you for posting this. I have been looking for passive protection that actually works. If you don't mind, could you please post or PM the ones that you actually use?

You will never convince 430man that his belief is wrong....... Sure as you bring up a valid point he'll tell you more about 400 yrd groups with 420 grain slugs and show you a coke can or soup can as proof he is right. I think I remember stories of a 2.5" group at something like 500 yards or so with a 44 mag or 45/70 can't remember for sure, wearing a red dot sight having a aiming dot of 2 or 4 MOA. Wanna guess how large that dot is at 500 yrds???