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#99334 - 12/31/11 07:35 PM

Re: Big bullets..big kick? [Re: wapitirod]

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Rod, when I get some extra cash I think I'll be sending the barrel your way. Thanks.

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#99346 - 12/31/11 10:06 PM

Re: Big bullets..big kick? [Re: ccn]

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Originally Posted By: ccn

Rod, when I get some extra cash I think I'll be sending the barrel your way. Thanks.

sounds like a plan!

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#99382 - 01/01/12 09:47 AM

Re: Big bullets..big kick? [Re: bmbailes]

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Originally Posted By: bmbailes

Is it possible to get a 300gr. Out of a 44 to not kick that bad? forgive my newness but why do people always say heavy bullets recoil hard? I understand they need more powder to reach good speed but seems like a heavy slug even moving at slow speed would pack a punch. Basically I need a load recipe for my 4" redhawk and some 300gr. Cast fn bullets. They will be loaded for whatever comes by but mainly for medium to small fersl hogs....50 to 150#.....plus they look cool:)

No, heavy boolits use LESS powder. They will also have LESS velocity then lighter bullets/boolits.
Recoil can be heavy but not as sharp. I shoot 330 gr boolits from my .44 and they are not bad at all. I use 300 to 347 gr from my .45 Vaquero. None are like the larger calibers like the .475,.500 calibers or the silly extra large calibers.
Your problem is the short barrel. WHY? You are hunting, why such a short barrel? It is so hard to explain that a short barrel needs to be shot FASTER for accuracy and stability but it just can't be reached because the proper powder will not all burn.
That puts you into a faster powder, boolit damage from a faster pressure rise and MORE recoil. Add to a lighter gun and they will beat you silly.
Many stupid things go on, a 2" .500 S&W, 4" 45-70, short .480's and on and on. A rifle that needs a 28" barrel with a caliber must work with a 2" revolver barrel?????
Many will say they work fine but use your head. A much smaller case will equal or exceed velocities in short barrels because the powder capacity can't be used with large brass.
I will never, ever understand the short barrel stuff even as calibers get larger, it does not work.

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#99387 - 01/01/12 10:36 AM

Re: Big bullets..big kick? [Re: 430man]

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Well I got some loaded with 8 grs. Of unique! Only got to shoot 6 rounds..a joy to shoot and grouping very well....other than shooting high

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#99388 - 01/01/12 10:38 AM

Re: Big bullets..big kick? [Re: bmbailes]

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Originally Posted By: bmbailes

Well I got some loaded with 8 grs. Of unique! Only got to shoot 6 rounds..a joy to shoot and grouping very well....other than shooting high

Excellent! Keep us posted!

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#99391 - 01/01/12 11:01 AM

Re: Big bullets..big kick? [Re: Whitworth]

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I surely will...thanks for all the help guys! This forum is awesome and everyone is always so quick to help.

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#99469 - 01/02/12 08:26 AM

Re: Big bullets..big kick? [Re: bmbailes]

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Originally Posted By: bmbailes

Well I got some loaded with 8 grs. Of unique! Only got to shoot 6 rounds..a joy to shoot and grouping very well....other than shooting high

That is the best way. A faster powder so it burns. Unique is a good one.
The problem with short barrels will show up with slow ball powders, much will burn out front.
I have no problems with short barrels when the caliber can be handled. It is when the caliber and size of the brass is out of balance. Even 2" more helps but I stay with 7-1/2" for the large calibers and some need 10" like the 45-70. Just finding the powder that worked was a huge chore.
The huge case can not be utilized and a faster powder must be used.
To see a .480 or a .500 with a 2" barrel has to drive a guy nuts and to cut a 45-70 revolver to 5-1/2" is the same.
It is like a rifle in, say a .300 mag, it works best with 26" and even 28" is not out of line but to put it in an 18" barrel gives no advantage over a .308.

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