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#98189 - 12/18/11 01:06 AM left grouping?
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just started shooting my ruger sbh today....definitely different than my gp100:) but i was grouping left no matter what sight adjustment i made? i would get a few good shots in but then i would shoot left...btw im right handed....any suggestions?
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#98190 - 12/18/11 01:27 AM Re: left grouping? [Re: bmbailes]
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Are you shooting with both hands? It sounds like when you are squeezing the trigger you may be squeezing your whole hand. If the trigger is stiff you might consider a spring change, but index finger isolation and consistant grip tension are paramount.
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#98194 - 12/18/11 03:54 AM Re: left grouping? [Re: s4s4u]
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As The other Rod said there is a good chance an action job or at least springs could fix the problem. The out of the box triggers are horrendous and you'll actually push the gun to the left if you don't stay extremely focused when you pull the trigger.
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#98206 - 12/18/11 09:12 AM Re: left grouping? [Re: wapitirod]
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thanks guys...it definitely needs a trigger job and i have to get a consistent grip too. im use to my gp's finger grooves for consistent placement each time. just gotta figure out a good one for the sa
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#98209 - 12/18/11 10:08 AM Re: left grouping? [Re: bmbailes]
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Hold the grips tighter and never let the gun "roll."
I feel you have experienced torque and the barrel is moving left because of a weak hold. The bullet when it engages the rifling twist will try to turn the gun, you must resist it.
Use the pad of your finger on the trigger. Don't let the side of your finger touch the frame, you will push sideways instead of straight back.

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#98212 - 12/18/11 10:25 AM Re: left grouping? [Re: wapitirod]
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 Originally Posted By: wapitirod
The out of the box triggers are horrendous


My SBH Hunters' trigger has 268 yards of creep.

To keep things honest I confirmed this with my laser range finder.
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#98215 - 12/18/11 10:49 AM Re: left grouping? [Re: WVShiner329]
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ok...i guess i was confused. i thought i was suppose to let it roll in my hand:0 woops! thats the problem but i am getting a spring kit. anyone used the wilson combat kit or have one they prefer?
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#98222 - 12/18/11 12:00 PM Re: left grouping? [Re: bmbailes]
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I've always used the Wolff kits but they are all pretty similar.

Yea, you gotta hold on to the gun. It will want to roll, but a good grip should keep it settled down a bit. I prefer the Bisley as it pushes more straight back.
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#98230 - 12/18/11 03:35 PM Re: left grouping? [Re: bmbailes]
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Actually, I put a Wolff over power 26# hammer springs in all of my SBH's and BFR's. I remove creep and make the trigger spring lighter but never the hammer springs.
Reducing the hammer spring is a sure way to bad groups. Primers need a certain impact.

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#98233 - 12/18/11 04:05 PM Re: left grouping? [Re: 430man]
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so i just need to reduce the trigger spring or have the sear stoned down a tad?
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