#65809 - 03/05/10 07:51 PM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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I prefer a single action over a double and the SBH grip doesn't bother me at all in 44 Magnum and lower. Over that then the bisley grip is more comfortable to shoot but I don't like the styling. A 44 is really all you need for the game you mentioned and plenty of the bigger critters have also been killed with 44's before the other guns were around.
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#65811 - 03/05/10 08:07 PM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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The SRH is a very well built gun but I like the looks of the SBH better.
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#65814 - 03/05/10 08:30 PM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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That is one fine looking SRH!! I have a 4" S&W 44 & a Contender in 30/30AI & hunt with both at times, depending on the situation. My next handgun will be either a SRH or Bisley hunter, the SA looks better to me but I think the SRH will be my choice. I also like the ability to load heavy bullets "long", not that I need the power, but nice to have the option.
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#65818 - 03/05/10 09:08 PM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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SCOPE RINGS: I wondered about the Scope Ring positioning being different between the SBH Hunter and the SRH. I am not sure how big a deal this is, as long as you can get the scope where it needs to be.
BULLETS: AS I already have an RCBS 44-240-SWC Gas Check Mold, I think I would probably start out using it. I have been buying all my cast bullets the last few years for IDPA, however I have everything required to make them myself. I might need to get some different Bullet Lube. I still have some RCBS Green on hand that I have had around over 30 years.
RECOIL: I like the feel of the SRH rubber grip. It feels like it would soak up some recoil. The Super Blackhawk Bisley HUNTER grip feels ok, but I am not sure about recoil with the factory wood grip.
SA vs DA: No preference here. Loading and Unloading a single action is not a big deal. Hunting Deer you are going to cock either one. Both seem plenty robust in design and construction.
LOOKS: They both look OK to me. The Super Blackhawk Biesley Hunter might be a little sexier looking. Might just be the grips she was wearing.
I have never owned a Hunting Size Ruger pistol. I have owned several Smith & Wesson 29's, and 629's over the years. Most were 4" with a single 8-3/8 when the 629's first came out and you could not get one. My buddy at the Western Auto got a single one in because he had a friend in high places. I hauled it home the night it came in. Man did I ever pay too much for that one. I was always told that a steady diet of hunting ammo would Trash a 44 Smith. I like Smiths and own several, however I think a Ruger would last much longer if you planned to shoot it a lot with heavy loads. I did not deer hunt with the Smith 44's. I believe my old load was a 240 lead with 8 grains of unique under it.
The Super Redhawk I handled today left some to be desired on the Single Action trigger pull.
Which one is easier to tune up the Super Blackhawk or Super Redhawk?
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#65824 - 03/05/10 09:31 PM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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SCOPE RINGS: I wondered about the Scope Ring positioning being different between the SBH Hunter and the SRH. I am not sure how big a deal this is, as long as you can get the scope where it needs to be.
Scope location makes a huge difference in the balance of the rig.
The Super Redhawk I handled today left some to be desired on the Single Action trigger pull.
That's interesting, my 480 has a fantastic SA pull.
Which one is easier to tune up the Super Blackhawk or Super Redhawk?
Advantage SA, but they are all pretty good to begin with.
The Super Blackhawk Biesley Hunter might be a little sexier looking. Might just be the grips she was wearing.
That beauty is more than meets the eye, your hand and wrist will appreciate.
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#65828 - 03/05/10 11:21 PM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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The Super Redhawk I tryed today was probably new, considering the price on it. That could have had something to do with the trigger pull.
Between my brother and I we have 7 Smith & Wesson Revolvers at the moment. Three are Power Custom Combat's and 1 Smith & Wesson Custom Shop. Three are Rock Stock. The Single Action Trigger on the worst Smith we have is considerably better than that particular Super Redhawk.
You mentioned your 480. I was on Starlines web site last night. The 480 Ruger Brass has a Note: When we get enough on order, we will run some. Very Sad
From my reading if I were to go bigger than 44 Magnum, the 480 would be the best choice for me. REASONING Larger Diameter Bullets at the same speed Hits Harder. Bigger Holes In and Out better for blood trail, and Tolerable Recoil.
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#65829 - 03/06/10 12:26 AM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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You mentioned your 480. I was on Starlines web site last night. The 480 Ruger Brass has a Note: When we get enough on order, we will run some. Very Sad
From my reading if I were to go bigger than 44 Magnum, the 480 would be the best choice for me. REASONING Larger Diameter Bullets at the same speed Hits Harder. Bigger Holes In and Out better for blood trail, and Tolerable Recoil.
Yes, big holes hurt more. Get your order in for a couple hundred pieces of brass. When you get it you might be ready, it will last a long time.
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#65838 - 03/06/10 10:00 AM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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Whitworth
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The Super Redhawk I tryed today was probably new, considering the price on it. That could have had something to do with the trigger pull.
Between my brother and I we have 7 Smith & Wesson Revolvers at the moment. Three are Power Custom Combat's and 1 Smith & Wesson Custom Shop. Three are Rock Stock. The Single Action Trigger on the worst Smith we have is considerably better than that particular Super Redhawk.
You mentioned your 480. I was on Starlines web site last night. The 480 Ruger Brass has a Note: When we get enough on order, we will run some. Very Sad
From my reading if I were to go bigger than 44 Magnum, the 480 would be the best choice for me. REASONING Larger Diameter Bullets at the same speed Hits Harder. Bigger Holes In and Out better for blood trail, and Tolerable Recoil.
Yup, no doubt compared to the slick trigger of the Smith & Wesson, the Ruger's trigger is attrocious. That established, the Ruger can be slicked up really nicely. The action of my .500 SRH mocks those of my Smiths now. Out of the box they can be heavy, but that can be easily fixed. What you do get with the Ruger over the Smith is tank-like strength.
All that aside, DA or SA is a matter of preference. They will both serve you admirably. DA's transfer recoil more to the shooter than an equivalently loaded SA revolver. They both have advantages and disadvantages.
Edited by Whitworth (03/06/10 10:20 AM)
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#65839 - 03/06/10 10:28 AM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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You hit the nail on the head the trigger can be fixed. The tank like strength is the real High Point.
My main complaint with Hi Powered Revolvers has always been being whacked by the trigger guard. This seems to never happen with Contenders. It happened a lot with a Model 29 with heavy loads. I normally have Hogue rubber grips on all my Smiths. The one that I remember really getting me was a factory wood stocked 4" Nickle 29 with some factory ammo I got with the pistol.
Well I better get off here and build some Simulators for the Sniper Range. We are working on a new design multi purpose simulator that will work as a:
Firing Port Simulator
Low Wall Simulator
Helicopter Door (Using the Strap) Simulator
Ceiling Hung 550 Cord Simulator
This should be a favorite with the next Sniper Class, as well as at the Sniper Match.
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#65849 - 03/06/10 02:41 PM
Re: Ruger Revolvers SA vs DA
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Yes to all of that. Concerning the recoil, I noticed that the SRH now has the tamer grips. I t would seem that those grips combined with the wt. would make it as pleasant as the Bisley, but I havn't tried the new SRH yet.
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