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#205857 - 03/04/20 10:49 PM anyone shoot a 358 win
dave thomas
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would like to hear if anyone is shooting a 358 in a encore or specialty pistol and what kind of performance they are getting

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#205858 - 03/04/20 11:02 PM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: dave thomas]
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I had a 356 Win in an Encore. If you do the Encore I think the 356 is best due to the rim. You can also use 358 brass you just need to change the ejector. But if you get 100 rounds of brass you will never wear it out. I shot 180gr Hornady SSPBs and 180 Speer bullets almost exclusively. My barrels were MGM early Shilin blank barrels. I had both rifle and pistol length.
Guns shot 1/2? groups

Had a 15? with brake 15? no brake 20? rifle and 22? rifle

All heavy taper MGM


Killed a bunch of [censored] with the pistol.

Traded the pistol setup for a NIB xp100 in .223 and bought a xp100 custom shop gun in 35 Rem


Edited by H2OBUG (03/04/20 11:10 PM)
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#205859 - 03/04/20 11:07 PM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: H2OBUG]
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http://www.handgunhunt.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=3472

http://www.handgunhunt.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=1558

http://www.handgunhunt.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=3590
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#205863 - 03/05/20 09:10 AM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: H2OBUG]
dave thomas
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what kind of velocity were you getting from your 180's I see in your photo gallery some of your comments if it was within 250 yards it was in trouble. obviously accurate. with the brake how was the recoil?

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#205865 - 03/05/20 10:11 AM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: dave thomas]
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IN A 14 INCH RPM XL 356 WIN, USING 180gr HORNADY SSP BULLET HANDLOADS I WAS GETTING IN THE 2300-2400fps RANGE, AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT I REMEMBER.
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#205869 - 03/05/20 01:48 PM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: 45MAN]
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I have a 15" RPM Hunter in .358 Winchester with an RPM brake that was built for me by Jim Rock. I subsequently returned the gun to Jim and had him cut a rim on the chamber and modify the extractor to accommodate the .356 Winchester rimmed case. Either cartridge can be used in this gun by changing the extractor, or by using a "Merrill rod". Recoil was not bad with the brake and the design of the grip.

200 gr. Factory Silvertip vel. 2215 fps.
200 gr. R-P 200 gr Ptd. SPCL
225 gr. Nosler Partition 48.0 AA-2520 vel.-2238 fps (max load) (F-215 Primer)
250 gr. Speer Hot Cor-very accurate


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#205872 - 03/05/20 11:32 PM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: Sawfish]
dave thomas
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thanks for the info.

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#205873 - 03/06/20 11:25 AM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: dave thomas]
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I am not really sure on velocity. My guess is 2400ish. The barrel with the brake was my first one. The recoil was not bad for either barrel but the one with the brake was much louder and would blow dust everywhere.

The gun really lost pep after 250 but out to that it was a hammer.

I had several encores over the years the 356 was by far my favorite.
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#206104 - 03/20/20 11:43 PM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: H2OBUG]
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I can't help but wonder how the 350 Remington Magnum would perform in an XP or a custom Encore
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#206106 - 03/21/20 12:00 AM Re: anyone shoot a 358 win [Re: Franchise]
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I have a 15.875 MGM SS Encore barrel, with a 4 Gill Brake. I am shooting 180's through it. I have 180 Speer, 180 SSP Hornady's as well as 180 Fury Bullets. I have a Weaver 2.5 - 10X Classic Extreme rifle scope on the barrel. On 2.5X the eye relief is very impressive on the handgun barrel.
I made a 100 yard shot on an eight point this last deer season. That was the first shot deer hunting with this barrel. I was very impressed with the performance of the 356 Winchester.
I have had a 35 Bullberry barrel for my Contender for years. It is impressive also.

Bob R
I practice out to around 250 yards, however most places I hunt shots are limited to approximately 125 yards.
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