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#205015 - 01/12/20 06:34 PM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: Whitworth]
BIZZMO
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Barnes xpb and ceb's and lehighs in handguns, barnes tsx,ttsx,hornady gmx, nosler e-tip,ceb mth,hammer hunters and badlands bulldozers in rifles

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#205017 - 01/12/20 07:43 PM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: BIZZMO]
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So pretty much everything. You?re not getting good accuracy out of them? What powder did you use with the CEBs if you don?t mind me asking?
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#205019 - 01/12/20 08:17 PM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: Whitworth]
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I'm getting good accuracy out of the CEB's using power pistol like you said.I got poor accuracy out of the barnes at 100yds using H110, enforcer and power pistol. accuracy was ok at 50 yds but that's not what I'm looking for.I'm using a labradar chrono and I have found in the handguns velocity drops a lot with the copper bullets at 100 yds as compared with the lead bullets.I don"t know if that has anything to do with the 100yd accuracy,just an observation.

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#205058 - 01/14/20 09:28 AM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: BIZZMO]
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interesting.

I know every firearm is a little different, but man my old Browning A-Bolt 7mm Rem mag loves factory Barnes VORtx 160gr TSXs. I have shot 1/2" groups at over a hundred yards off bags with it.

My FA83 454 has shot the XPBs pretty well too, maybe not as accurate as the 265 Swifts I have used, but still definitely minute of whitetail.

I even loaded some XPBs for my 45 colt that I am anxious to try at the range. we'll see how they work soon hopefully.

That stinks you have been having so many issues.
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#205060 - 01/14/20 09:39 AM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: BIZZMO]
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 Originally Posted By: BIZZMO
I have found in the handguns velocity drops a lot with the copper bullets at 100 yds as compared with the lead bullets.


Do you have any numbers (MVs, 100y velocities, BCs and specific bullets model #s) you can share on this?

Did the lead bullets you compared to have identical BCs? Did you compare to what ballistic calculators would suggest for the copper bullets?

I'm using an optical chronograph and haven't been willing to set it up that far down range so any information/confirmation of factory BCs would be appreciated.

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#205061 - 01/14/20 09:46 AM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: BBwheelgunner]
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Well maybe it's because I have a negative attitude about non-lead to start with because we HAVE to use them.I also want to practice with exactly the same ammo that I hunt with and every round I fire with this stuff I can feel it grabbing at my wallet.

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#205067 - 01/14/20 12:31 PM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: BIZZMO]
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I can understand both feelings. I don't like being told what do do, nor do I like spending more money than I think I should.

I made a personal choice to switched to copper or steel for all my hunting that puts meat on the table after reading the MN DNR report on lead contamination and seeing the X-ray images they took of sheep and deer that they used in the study. Lead was often widely dispersed through the carcass and difficult to predict where it would be. https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/hunting/ammo/lead.html for the study home page with links to a online presentation.

For me with a young child eating mostly venison at home, the potential lead exposure wasn't worth it. Low levels of lead don't really effect adults, but it really messes with the brains of young kids, both before they are born and while they grow.

To lighten the load on my pocket book, I've taken the approach of working up a similar load with a lead bullet and using that for the majority of range time over the non-hunting season and then switching over to copper bullets in the ~month or so before hunting starts. I've found the switch to be quite easy when using optics and I can simply dial in a new POI for the copper rounds. I imagine open sights would be a bit more difficult.

Good luck in finding a load that works for you. Let us know how it works out.

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#205071 - 01/14/20 01:15 PM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: karl]
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karl-cutting edge does not give their bc for handgun raptors so these are the numbers I know without digging too far.this is loads that I will and have used hunting. first is the .41 magnum 210 grain deep curl going 1580 mv, at 100yds it is still going 1250 fps I use this load hunting!next is .454 casull 240 grain C.E.B. raptor going 1620 mv,at 100yds it is going 1190 fps at 100yds, accuracy is 2'' and under at 100yds,I plan on using this load hunting here in the golden state.I'm hoping the power pistol doesn't act up on me when the weather gets up around 100 degrees because our deer season starts the second week of august.

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#205073 - 01/14/20 01:46 PM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: BIZZMO]
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Thanks for the details. I'll find the BCs and run them through a calculator tonight and post the results.

Are you talking about the flat based raptors with the black polymer inset in the hollow point? SKU #FB 452 250 Cu RAPTOR

I called and like their technical spec PDF suggests, they don't have any numbers for that bullet. Tami suggested it would be very low and likely around 0.200


Edited by karl (01/14/20 02:00 PM)

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#205074 - 01/14/20 01:56 PM Re: Hornady Handgun Hunter [Re: karl]
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Thanks karl,I use a labradar and it gives you six velocity readings that you can set from 0-100yds.

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