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#200740 - 07/24/19 07:33 PM 357 Max
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Are there any 357 Max revolver shooters here???
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#200741 - 07/24/19 08:16 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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I just shot mine yesterday at the range James, in prep for hunting season. Surprised myself with 5 into 2.5? at 100, the 6th made the group 3.75?

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#200742 - 07/24/19 10:18 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Bigbrowndog]
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Trapr, What make revolver??? What was your Load??? The reason I`am asking is that I am waiting for delivery of a Dan Wesson 357 Super mag....
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#200743 - 07/24/19 10:19 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Bigbrowndog]
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 Originally Posted By: Bigbrowndog
I just shot mine yesterday at the range James, in prep for hunting season. Surprised myself with 5 into 2.5? at 100, the 6th made the group 3.75?

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That`s a darn good 100 yard group.. What did your load consist of??
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#200752 - 07/25/19 10:43 AM Re: 357 Max [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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James don?t tell Whit, but it was 180xtp?s, H4227 20gr. CCI smRifle, it gives me 1485fps. The gun is a Ruger 10.5 inch gun with a Burris 2-7x on it.
I?ve had good results with the 180xtp on medium game, pronghorn and Texas whitetails.
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#200753 - 07/25/19 10:49 AM Re: 357 Max [Re: Bigbrowndog]
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#200754 - 07/25/19 12:16 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Bigbrowndog]
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James, I've been loading for a Ruger 10.5" with an Eotech MRDS getting ready to hunt whitetail this fall. I have 1050 rounds through it so far with most of them over a chrono. XTP, Fury, Swift and various cast 180 gr bullets all shoot 2" or less at 50 yds (no 100 yd yet). IMR4227, 296 and 300MP all produce accurate loads. Best combination of accuracy and velocity has been with 300MP and the Fury bullet. I plan to hunt with a 180 gr Fury JFP @ 1650 fps with 300MP, Rem 7 1/2, new Starline brass. Enjoy your new gun!

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#200755 - 07/25/19 01:45 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Seminole Wind]
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James if you decide to go with the Swift bullets, (in the 180gr) then I do hope you can use a powder that will get the most velocity with of course the best accuracy. Reason: The Swifts need that velocity to really open up well.
For practice I used to use the 180gr Cast performance and 180XTPs those can be loaded with 4227. I think Lead Head bullets had another offering in 180 cast, that was an accurate bullet.
The XTPs will work fine on Deer. Try 17.5-18.5grs of the IMR 4227
Sixshot should be able to give you some good loads also.

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#200756 - 07/25/19 01:46 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: cherokeetracker]
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#200762 - 07/25/19 07:55 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: cherokeetracker]
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CT, what velocity do you think the Swift 180s need to expand well?

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#200764 - 07/25/19 09:33 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Seminole Wind]
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Seminole Wind, not nearly as much as you think...they are great bullets and hold together like glue, but they are soft from the cannelure up...hence why all of their factory loads are slower than other similar expanding bullets...Barnes XPB's need a lot of velocity, not the huge HP of the Swift
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#200765 - 07/25/19 10:00 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Franchise]
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 Originally Posted By: Franchise
Seminole Wind, not nearly as much as you think...they are great bullets and hold together like glue, but they are soft from the cannelure up...hence why all of their factory loads are slower than other similar expanding bullets

I just went to the Swift web site that shows expansion on a 45 caliber 300gr A-frame at 950fps...
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#200767 - 07/25/19 11:21 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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Dang it, I thought I was set on the Fury bullet to hunt with, now Franchise and JFJ make me want to take another look at the Swift. Maybe I'll hunt with both.

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#200768 - 07/26/19 06:30 AM Re: 357 Max [Re: Seminole Wind]
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I love the Fury bullets! You can't go wrong with them. Swift A Frame handgun bullets have been around for over 20 YEARS, kinda funny how long it's taken them to catch on. Seminole Wind, I just was just getting across that the A frame expands at 357 mag velocities..the Max will have NO issues with them.
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#200772 - 07/26/19 10:05 AM Re: 357 Max [Re: Franchise]
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 Originally Posted By: Franchise
Seminole Wind, not nearly as much as you think...they are great bullets and hold together like glue, but they are soft from the cannelure up...hence why all of their factory loads are slower than other similar expanding bullets...Barnes XPB's need a lot of velocity, not the huge HP of the Swift


Federal tends to load everything a bit on the slow side, but I don't think it's because A-frames are soft. The only other ammo manufacturer I know of loading A-frames is Swift itself, and they don't seem to hold anything back and keep their foot in the firewall. The funny thing about A-frames is that no matter how fast they impact, they all come out looking the same.
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#200774 - 07/26/19 01:02 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Whitworth]
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ABSOLUTELY..they are very reliable and predictable, but no one has ever posted one that didn't expand, because they all do, push them close to 1,000 fps and they'll expand..they are soft up front much like a Weldcore. If they didn't have a partition, they expand as flat as a pancake, they'd retain their weight, but they would look so much differently. The bonding process makes bullets inherently softer. Bullet don't have to be hard or brittle to work. Keep in mind for example the 300 gr 45 cal A frame expands at mild 45 Colt loads and also stays together at 460 Velocities....bonding is beautiful, but if they were hard, this bullet would never expand at mild Colt velocities.
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#200775 - 07/26/19 03:15 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Seminole Wind]
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United Sporting Arms Seville. 180 gr. Nosler Partition 22.0 gr AA-1680. est. vel. 1,650 fps.


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#200776 - 07/26/19 03:31 PM Re: 357 Max [Re: Franchise]
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 Originally Posted By: Franchise
The bonding process makes bullets inherently softer.


I never knew this until I talked with a bullet maker....
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