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#199098 - 04/19/19 10:32 PM Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames
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Lately the A-frames have been getting a lot of good recommendations here on this site.

Do any here have experience comparing the Nosler Partitions in same caliber and same or similar weight to the A-frames on hunting/game killing performance?

Just curious, since both bullets have very similar construction.

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#199127 - 04/20/19 04:14 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: Gregg Richter]
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ANYONE OUT THERE EVER KILLED ANYTHING WITH A NOSLER PARTITION REVOLVER BULLET, IN A REVOLVER?

GREGG: I DO NOT KNOW IF THE PARTITION REVOLVER BULLET's NOSE IS BONDED LIKE A SWIFT AFRAME, IF NOT THAT MAY BE A SIGNIFICANT DESIGN AND PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCE IN THE BULLETS.
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#199128 - 04/20/19 05:12 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: 45MAN]
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Rey, I have only had experience with Partitions in my .30-06 JDJ Encore (165 & 180 Partitions on several deer and elk) but no Partitions in revolvers.

Good point on the nose being bonded question...
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#199129 - 04/20/19 05:50 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: Gregg Richter]
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That's the only difference between the two bullets...the Partition loses its nose, the a frame doesn't...a lot of guys have used the Partitions, they're just not responding. I used the 260 gr Partitions in my 454 with great success

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#199130 - 04/20/19 06:06 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: 45MAN]
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I have used the 250 grain Partition in 44 Mag to take numerous animals from my Super Blackhawk. I used the Winchester factory load at 1365 fps. That load is the most accurate load I have found for my revolver.

I always had good, even great performance from the Partition on deer, bear, and hogs. I recovered several from game, or from the dirt behind an animal. A couple of instances of poor penetration on deer however, has me searching for a suitable replacement.

I have not used an A-frame, so I can't compare them directly. It is not unusual for the small button of lead in the nose to be lost,so they differ in that regard.

The deer in this photo stopped a Partition short, with penetration only halfway through the chest. The entrance is visible, low in the shoulder.


This deer stopped a Partition on a quarting to neck shot. The bullet is visible under the hide high on the shoulder.

Some recovered examples...


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#199132 - 04/20/19 06:54 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: cmnash]
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l had 3 boxes of the 250gr HG Partition 44s..Truly beautiful...

Too pretty to shoot.. l think l passed them on to 'kral' awhile back

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#199133 - 04/20/19 07:43 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: sw282]
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Nosler Partitions are almost as good as an A-frame.. To quote Ross Seyfried article "A Quantum Leap in Performance" (G&A 3/98) where he test`s both bullets: "The two brands of jacketed handgun bullets achieve almost identical results, but go about it in different ways. The Nosler uses a fan-blade approach (expanded), while the Swift has a classic, but smaller diameter mushroom". These words are under a photo of two expanded bullets.... The other difference was that the Nosler`s were slightly less in cost.. Both are partitioned handgun bullets with the Swift being bonded for better weight retention.. I have a supply of Nosler`s in 44 and 45 caliber that should last until I give it up and then some but that is not to say I will never use Swift. Perfect example is the last mule deer I took with a 210gr A-frame in my 41 or the large boar taken on Reeders HHC with a 50 caliber Swift....
The bottom two photos show a recovered Nosler with its "fan-blade" expansion that Seyfried mentions while the two Swift show the classic bonded mushroom... It really does not matter because the Nosler`s have sadly been discontinued......
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#199137 - 04/20/19 09:20 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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300 gr Partition out of 454 Cassull

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#199139 - 04/20/19 09:32 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: Franchise]
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 Originally Posted By: Franchise

300 gr Partition out of 454 Cassull


The petals on that bullet appear to be twisted. Perhaps the high velocity of the .454 produced enough rotation to twist them on impact?

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#199140 - 04/20/19 09:34 PM Re: Nosler Partitions vs. Swift A-frames [Re: Franchise]
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There`s the "fan-blade" expansion that Seyfried mention`s... However, not being bonded like the Swift they almost always lose the front lead. Still an impressive partition-type handgun bullet.
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