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#196332 - 12/01/18 09:21 AM Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for
bigbore442001
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the Contender-G2?

In my collection I have 22 centerfires and then a big jump to the big bores like the 44 magnum,375 JDJ and 4570. Nothing inbetween, so to speak.

I would like some opinions on what would be a great round for deer, antelope, even black bear.

For some reason I am partial to a 6.5 mm although some do not. Thanks for any replies.

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#196333 - 12/01/18 09:27 AM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: bigbore442001]
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Either the 6.5 or .309 JDJ are a good place to start. .444 Marlin cases are easier to acquire than .225 Winchester I believe.

I'm a .30 caliber man, and I believe the .309 would serve you well for anything from picket pins to black bear to large African antelope.

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#196335 - 12/01/18 09:53 AM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: MS Hitman]
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There's also the 30-30 or the AI version. I would think they would do well for your needs.
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#196341 - 12/01/18 10:39 AM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: bigbore442001]
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The 6.5 JDJ is an awesome cartridge but the availability of .225 Win brass pretty much rules it out in my opinion. I would say that a 7-30 Waters or a 30-30 AI would suit your needs very well. They both use cheap and easy to find 30-30 brass and barrels are relatively easy to find on the internet. The 7-30 will push a 120 grain bullet to 2400fps, and the 30-30AI will just about get that with a 150 grain bullet. Just my 2 cents.

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#196345 - 12/01/18 12:40 PM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: MS Hitman]
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 Originally Posted By: MS Hitman
Either the 6.5 or .309 JDJ are a good place to start. .444 Marlin cases are easier to acquire than .225 Winchester I believe. ............................


"Best" will always be arguable, of course, but these two are excellent choices if you handload.

SSK normally has .225 brass in stock.

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#196353 - 12/01/18 04:36 PM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: Gregg Richter]
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Do you hand load?

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#196355 - 12/01/18 06:17 PM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: racksmasher1]
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I agree with MS Hit Man. 6.5 and .309 JDJs are hard to beat, but .225 brass is the problem. The .309 JDJ would be my choice for game up to elk with the right bullets. For deer size animals I've used it out to 350 with the old 3-9 Burris (non BPLex). With a Blex I wouldn't be afraid of extending it another 50 yards or so. Recoil is reasonable. Accuracy is excellent.
A few weeks ago I put a 150 BT, 165 BT, and 165 NSB in 1/2" at 100. Deer are absolutely pounded with these bullets. Smaller game simply says "no mas".
Out of the 200+ deer I've taken with my .309 very few have ran more than 10 yds. Most drop.
I did witness MS Hit Man drop a very large red hartebeest with his .309 beyond 200 yds. It ran about 5 yds.


Edited by wvhitman (12/01/18 06:19 PM)

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#196356 - 12/01/18 07:04 PM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: wvhitman]
JDK
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The 30-30AI and 309 run about the same speeds right? Not to derail, but is there an advantage to the 309? Just curious.
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#196361 - 12/01/18 09:55 PM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: JDK]
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John,

In the lighter weight bullets, probably not much difference at all. However, in the heavier weights, I believe the .309 will outpace the AI. I've no experience with the .30-30 AI, just basing my opinion on previous experience. Either would do well on deer sized game.

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#196362 - 12/01/18 11:00 PM Re: Best long range,medium game hunting cartridge for [Re: MS Hitman]
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A slightly larger bore that I like is the 35 Bullberry. A couple years ago it was in the same category as the 225 Winchester based rounds. Originally it was made from 375 Winchester brass necked down, and then blown out. The brass availability problem with the 35 Bullberry has been cured by Starline. They now make 38-55 brass which works just fine as the parent case. C&H makes dies for it.

My brother has a 30-30AI he is pretty impressed with.

Another one to consider is the 6.5 x 30 JDJ. It is based on the 30-30 case, and has slightly more case capacity than the 225 based round.

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