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#194721 - 10/03/18 11:32 PM Testing a New HP
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Since I've bought a lot of Miha moulds in the last few years I've been on a quest to test several different HP's on deer & antelope size game. For about 50 years I've used nothing but cast solids & never had a problem, there have been a very few times I've had game get out of sight before they went down but I could probably count the number on one hand.
The only exception to using a HP on bigger game has been the fantastic Miha 385 gr 475/480 bullet & it has been a proven big game killer on bears, elk, moose, bison, large feral hogs, etc with a great track record & as far as I know almost always complete penetration with correct alloy & velocity.
In the last 5-6 years I've been stacking up a fair number of deer & antelope with different 41, 44 & 45 caliber HP's & so far they have worked great. Almost always I've used an alloy of 70% wheel weights & 30% lead with maybe a 1/4 lb of linotype thrown in to pick up some tin & then I powder coat everything to anneal the cast slugs. These bullets are working great up to about 1150 fps using a plain base slug with great expansion & penetration.
In the last couple of days I've been using a new bullet in my wonderful 41 magnum Bisley that weighs 212 grs that is a LFN style HP with a gas check. Two loads that show promise have been 18 grs of 2400 & 18.5 grs of 2400. I haven't been testing from the bench so the results aren't the very best these loads will do but I like to test from the Keith, reclining position because I use it a lot in the field when hunting & since our regular deer season opens one week from today I need to get things dialed in.
I haven't run this load through the clock yet but the heavier load (18.5 grs of 2400) will be going out to 50 & 100 yds tomorrow so that when Tank arrives I'll be ready & waiting. As usual my back up gun will be my scoped 10.5" 357 Maximum with a 180 gr Miha HP.
I've already taken one deer a month ago with the 230 gr Keith, a life long favorite so now it's time for this new HP to show me how it holds up in the game fields, I think with the long shank of this LFN it's going to be a dandy & with 18.5 grs of 2400 this bullet is going to be running pretty fast. Target is 7 shots reclining at 25 yds.




Dick

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#194722 - 10/03/18 11:43 PM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: sixshot]
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Nice job nice looking load and one helluva nice looking bisley if i havent said so before!

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#194726 - 10/04/18 07:37 AM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: tradmark]
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OH YES, A NICE LOOKING BISLEY.
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#194727 - 10/04/18 08:02 AM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: 45MAN]
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That's a dandy bullet for a dandy revolver.

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#194728 - 10/04/18 08:58 AM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: Mark Hampton]
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It all looks good so far,, anxious to see end results. Tell Tank I said hello.

Charles

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#194730 - 10/04/18 10:10 AM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: cherokeetracker]
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Hay sixgun; I have the same mold and used it on a swamp doe. 45 steps
in the right shoulder and found under the skin of the left hip. Bullet expanded down to the bottom of the hollow point and weighed 138 gr out of the 208 prefired weight. I did notch the mouth of the HP --I used it in my .410 GNR Redhawk.mv was 1630 from 5.5" barrell --

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#194732 - 10/04/18 12:16 PM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: glynn41]
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Dang it, it's raining right now, might get snow north of town & I want to shoot! I love this 41 Bisley & it's taken a lot of game including my last elk with a 250 gr WFN LBT. Mark Hampton has shot some amazing groups with that bullet.
Mark I thought I had sent you some of these 212 HP's, maybe not. Anyway, come Wednesday I hope to whack a buck with one. I'll still try to run some through the clock today, I think they are running pretty fast but we'll see.
With the long shank I think they will be an outstanding deer bullet.
Charles, I'll tell Tank you said HEY! Just got his gun as I type this!! It's on, biscuits & gravy, Mexican food, Huckleberry milkshakes, dutch oven taters, home made Cheese Cake, sourdough pancakes. Heck, we might even hunt!

Dick

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#194735 - 10/04/18 02:49 PM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: sixshot]
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Dick....That is a real interesting bullet for a 41....I know the PC .32`s you sent out shot the JHP`s and I can`t help wondering how your .41`s would perform in a 4" and 7 1/2" S&W...The 2400 powder charge along with the PC bullet must be a sweetheart to shoot...
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#194739 - 10/04/18 09:16 PM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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Dick, You did send some of the 212 HPs and they shoot great! Best of luck on your hunt.

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#194742 - 10/04/18 10:45 PM Re: Testing a New HP [Re: Mark Hampton]
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Today just as a dandy storm was rolling in I set up to shoot at 50 yds with this new 212 gr HP out of my 41 Bisley. I had earlier ran it through the clock & it came up just a bit under 1300 fps. This is going to be a very good load for medium size game & after me & Tank get a couple of days of eating lots of good food under our belts we'll concentrate on hunting muley bucks with six guns, yippee!
I had my Bill Fowler 10" steel swinger target set up with a paper backer behind it to catch any misses from my 25 yd zero yesterday. This makes it easy to use the binoculars to see what's going on down range when using iron sights. I was at the end of the shooting range, shooting on an angle so it was safe but kind of tight.
I fired 3 rounds & you can see them bunched really tight right at the bottom of the target, all touching. This isn't a real world group for me, the load might be this good but I'm not, this was a fluke. I came up 2 clicks & fired 3 more shots & that's a little closer to my old eyes ability at 50 yds. I drove the truck back to what I figured was 75 yds & shot the target with the range finder & came up with 76 yds, close enough. I came up 2 clicks & fired 5 rounds & knew that 3 of them had missed. You will see them just above the target, they look higher than they actually were, I didn't get down level with my phone to take the photo. They were only slightly high with 2 solid hits. This thing was shooting flat! I took the 2 clicks back off & the rain & sleet was hammering me & then Fermin calls. I waited 30 minutes & I see snow coming my way, time to go. The load is shooting good & hopefully tomorrow I'll dial in tight.
You can see the storm that ran me off.






Dick

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