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#193934 - 08/15/18 08:08 PM Hornady brass...
Randy M
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Well this was a first for me. Reloaded 460, below max, in Hornady brass. Opened the cylinder up and this is what fell out. I had already shot one other full cylinder with no problems, so this was one out of ten. Shooting session over...

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#193935 - 08/15/18 09:34 PM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: Randy M]
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How many times was it loaded?

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#193936 - 08/15/18 09:52 PM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: racksmasher1]
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First time - it was unfired brass. But I?m learning it could be tied to several things. Possibly...weak brass, magnum primer (recipe called for it), too tight of a crimp, etc.

I?ve already ordered starline brass and I?m going to rework the load with non magnum primers.


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#193937 - 08/15/18 10:02 PM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: Randy M]
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Hmm, that's weird. The placement and type of split is strange, too. I've had lengthwise splits in revolver cartridges, but never across. Plus, it's well above the case head, not near the edge of the die marks.

I've got some 460 S&W Hornady brass that I've run hot 4 or 5 times with no issues yet. Probably just a bad case, but I certainly can't fault you for wanting to go with Starline.
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#193939 - 08/16/18 12:30 PM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: Chance Weldon]
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I have more issues with sticking brass from Hornady in my Casull and .480 Ruger revolvers (including factory loads). Lab tests from Speer (on Casull cases) indicate that sticking cases are a brass hardness issue. WW brass tested as the hardest, and as having no problem with sticking cases. I have not seen this particular problem before, but it looks like a manufacturing defect to me.
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#193940 - 08/16/18 12:41 PM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: Sawfish]
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The only 30-30 brass I've had to discard was Hornady stamped and it was always head separation about 1/2 inch up the body. I've never had that failure with another brand even with 2-3x more reloads.

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#193941 - 08/16/18 01:38 PM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: karl]
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Thanks everyone. I'm chunking all of it - just don't want to take any risks. Jason Hornady is a friend of mine from a past life and I've sent the picture to him.
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#193942 - 08/16/18 07:37 PM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: Randy M]
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I've previously had head separations in bottlenecked rifle cases. In the bottlenecked cases the causes were variously: headspace issues, improper annealing/hardness at manufacture, full length resizing too many times. Critically all of these caused head separation much closer to the case head than shown in your example. However I've never heard of it with straight walled cases. The only straight walled case splitting I've seen have been longitudinal in the body or neck.

If you know Jason Hornady it might be a good idea to keep the damaged case and the others from the batch. I suspect that any decent manufacturer would want to identify any metallurgic problems before they cause more serious issues.

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#193954 - 08/17/18 01:13 PM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: Walkingthemup]
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I would have sent back all the cases to Hornady, with a letter of explanation and the separated case or cases I would have kept them separate in a small baggie. You might not be the only person to experience this, and may or may not get compensated for the effort.
But it is best to let Manufacturers know what is going on with their products.

Glad no injuries or calamity with your weapon.

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#194191 - 09/02/18 09:11 AM Re: Hornady brass... [Re: cherokeetracker]
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I've never used Hornady/Frontier handgun brass, but I can tell you in rifle brass it has not held up for me. Loads in the upper PSI/CUP range the primer pockets enlarge due to very soft brass. Case stretching is more of an issue as well. I had to do more case prep with the Hornady brass with every reload over any other brass I used at the time. For my rifle brass now all I shoot is Norma or Lapua in handgun brass I stick with Starline. If you're not a reloader (just a one-n-done shooter) then Hornady is fine, but wouldn't be any better than the rest.


Edited by OFFSHORE (09/02/18 09:12 AM)

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