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#191092 - 03/26/18 11:29 PM 284 in a T/C... or not?
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Been itching to get a long range pistol set up to go along with my 7mm Rem Mag rifle I'm about to acquire. Thought I was going to go with the XP100, but I got to thinking about my old 460 S&W due to another thread on here. That 460 was built on a T/C Pro Hunter frame with an MGM barrel. One of the most accurate handguns I've ever owned.

If I build that T/C set up with a 284 barrel, will it do it justice, or do I need to get the XP100 in order to get the most out of the 284? I plan on shooting some long distance with it, so want to get set up accordingly. By "long distance", I mean 1000 yards or less. I'm not planning on being a member of the 10 mile club any time soon, like Ernie!!

If the T/C Pro Hunter set up will work, continue reading. If not, stop here and tell me I need to get the XP100.

Please get specific on the barrel requirements. What length and twist rate do I need to utilize the full potential out of the 284? I plan on using light bullets for antegoats and deer, and heavy bullets for elk. If I have to choose one, I'd say I'll use the heavy bullets more often. MUCH more often.

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#191096 - 03/27/18 12:17 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: Raptortrapper]
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I have a 16.5 in Encore barrel in .280 Remington. Pretty much the same thing. Advantage of going with the .284 Win is a hair longer barrel than the .280 Remington. Just because of cartridge length.

Personally, if you?re going with an Encore, why not chamber it for the 7 Mag like the rifle you are doing?

The bolt action XP will likely be more accurate over distance to 1,000 yards than a break action Encore. Consider all the inherent accuracy benefits to a bolt action rifle and they relate to the XP as well.
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#191097 - 03/27/18 12:26 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: Zee]
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Good points Zee. Thanks. Some more to think about for sure. I can't imagine being more accurate than I was with my T/C 460. But that was only out to 300 yards on steel.
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#191098 - 03/27/18 12:32 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: Zee]
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By the way, what I said above does not mean you can?t do it with an Encore in .284 Win.

Just that it?s not the most accurate of platforms for distances out to 1,000 yards.
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#191099 - 03/27/18 12:38 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: Raptortrapper]
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 Originally Posted By: Raptortrapper
Good points Zee. Thanks. Some more to think about for sure. I can't imagine being more accurate than I was with my T/C 460. But that was only out to 300 yards on steel.


With a bolt action pistol, you have the advantage of a free floated barrel and a receiver that does not need to be moved to reload.

Consistency breeds accuracy. A gun that stays in place shot after shot will be more consistent, or at least easier to be so, as one that must be removed and replaced after each shot.

When I am shooting groups with my bolt action rifles, I never move my body or remove my face from the stock between shots. I stay mounted the same way on the rifle for each shot. The only thing moving is my right hand to reload. That way, I am more consistent and as a result, more accurate and precise.
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#191100 - 03/27/18 12:51 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: Zee]
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Thanks for the advise. I'll stay with the xp100 then. That's the kind of stuff I wanted to know! Thanks again!
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#191103 - 03/27/18 07:43 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: Raptortrapper]
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WOW, I WAS GOING TO DO A TOPIC ABOUT THE 284 IN AN ENCORE. SEEING JAY HUNT'S XP IN 284 GOT ME EXCITED. I HAVE A RATHER RARE TC CUSTOM SHOP (NEW HAMPSHIRE) 15 INCH ENCORE BARREL IN 7mm TCU. BOUGHT IT OUT OF NOSTALGIA RE MY IHMSA DAYS BUT HAVE NOT USED IT. WOULD THIS BE A GOOD CANDIDATE TO RECHAMBER TO 284? OR SHOULD I JUST MOVE THE BARREL? IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN IT, SEND ME A PM, I AM SURE WE COULD MAKE A DEAL.
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#191107 - 03/27/18 09:29 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: 45MAN]
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Ditto on what Zee said.
It all depends on what you want to get out of it, and your budget.
It is just easier to do it with a XP versus a break-open.

45MAN,
I would just move that special barrel, and then have MGM or someone like them turn you out a 284 with the contour, twist rate, and scope base you desire. My 2 cents...
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#191108 - 03/27/18 09:47 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: 45MAN]
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 Quote:
WOULD THIS BE A GOOD CANDIDATE TO RECHAMBER TO 284?


What is the twist rate of that barrel?
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#191110 - 03/27/18 09:52 AM Re: 284 in a T/C... or not? [Re: s4s4u]
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 Originally Posted By: s4s4u
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WOULD THIS BE A GOOD CANDIDATE TO RECHAMBER TO 284?


What is the twist rate of that barrel?


I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE TWIST RATE. I AM THINKING THE BEST THING TO DO IS SELL IT. IT IS A RARE BARREL AND SHUD MAKE A DANDY LOW RECOIL WHITETAIL GETTER. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN IT SEND ME A PM, I AM SURE WE CAN MAKE A DEAL.
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