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#190843 - 03/22/18 09:57 AM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: s4s4u]
Jeff460
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I spoke to Cutting Edge and looked over their offerings. A 6.5 copper Safari solid at 130 grains is basic. They make a 6.5 155 grain but the rifle twist must be 1 in 7 to stabilize it because of its great length. .308 caliber has a 180 copper Safari solid and they make heavier copper Safari solid .366 or 9.3mm and up.
I spoke to a nice person who said the .284 caliber would be 150 grains at the most due to the length of the bullet as a copper solid Safari model. To tool up and compute the CNC machine to make it is $250.00 and a 250 quantity of bullets order must be put in at the same time. At a dollar a bullet that works out to at least $500.00. If I put up the tooling cost myself at $250.00, would anyone using a 7mm want to claim the 250 bullet order requirement? With 250 bullets needing ordered just 10 shooters wishing to have and test 25 bullets at $1.00 each would fund the cataloguing cost for Cutting Edge to make this 150 grain copper 7mm Safari solid a reality.
Call me at 620-238-1378 if you wish to make this happen. A $25.00 minimum buy-in is the base-level interest to warrant a call to purchase 25 150 grain copper Safari solid 7mm .284 bullets from Cutting Edge. I will coordinate everything if interest warrants.


Edited by Jeff460 (03/22/18 10:15 AM)
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#190853 - 03/22/18 11:08 AM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: Jeff460]
Jeff460
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I have a person who texted me for an order of 50 bullets. He is going to test, from Cutting Edge Bullets, the proposed 150 grain copper Safari solid in 7mm. I am also willing to purchase 50 bullets along with the tooling up cost of $250.00 to create it. So we need only 150 more bullets asked for to make me pull the trigger and get this bullet made by Cutting Edge and become a new Cutting Edge catalogue offering for purchase. Text me for your order at 620-238-1378 please.

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#190857 - 03/22/18 01:07 PM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: Jeff460]
s4s4u
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Do you have a link so we can see these bullets?
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#190860 - 03/22/18 02:32 PM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: s4s4u]
Jeff460
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Only the website listed as http://www.cuttingedgebullets.com as I am not technologically literate. The 150 grain .284 copper Safari solid for barrel twists of 1 in 9 1/2 or 1 in 10 inch is not listed as it will be custom made and I will pay the $280.00 tool up fee. I just spoke with them and the bullet may be heavier but no lighter. Their guess was a length of a bullet for the rate of bullet twist aforementioned would be a 150 grain .284 copper solid Safari bullet. The length of the straight and parallel sides limit its use to specific twist barrels. A 170 grain .284 copper Safari solid would need a 1 in 7 inch custom barrel twist to stabilize it.

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#190862 - 03/22/18 03:02 PM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: Jeff460]
s4s4u
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Pretty low BC's from what I see on their website, which I would expect with such a flat nose. How do they fare at long ranges?
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#190863 - 03/22/18 03:10 PM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: Jeff460]
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The time span to get to making and delivering this custom 7mm copper Safari solid at 150 grains or slightly more, is 10 to 12 weeks. A long wait, but the bullet will be the finest concentricity and quality. Who wants to finish this deal and purchase 150 bullets? Or 6 people purchasing 25 bullets each? Or 3 people purchasing 50 bullets of this make and weight?
Just text me at 620-238-1378 and let me know how many you wish to get? At one dollar apiece the minimum quantity is 25 bullets for 25 dollars. Just text me.

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#190864 - 03/22/18 03:15 PM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: s4s4u]
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The copper Safari solid is for straightline penetration on heavy, thick-skinned and strongly-boned animals. The 150 grain or slightly heavier solid copper bullet in 7mm is for close-range deep penetration in a straight and unbending line to the vitals and through, if possible. The BC is high on the pointed bullets for long range work.

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#190871 - 03/22/18 04:49 PM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: s4s4u]
Jeff460
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The flat nose copper Safari solid is for elephant, hippo, Cape buffalo, rhino and the like. None of these are long range targets, so look to the pointed solid models for a high BC.
The goal with this model is straightline penetration to the vitals, using knowledge of the animals anatomy to place the shot.
The 150 grain solid copper Safari model would be nice in a
7mm-08. The structural integrity of solid copper would mitigate the possibility of the bullet being bent or deformed, to deflect it from its intended internal vital organ target.

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#190907 - 03/23/18 11:38 AM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: Jeff460]
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Most states require a soft nosed or hollow point expanding bullet for hunting do they not? So unless hunting Africa or outside the USA a solid would be illegal for game?
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#190908 - 03/23/18 11:57 AM Re: Centerfire solids [Re: junebug]
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 Originally Posted By: junebug
Most states require a soft nosed or hollow point expanding bullet for hunting do they not? So unless hunting Africa or outside the USA a solid would be illegal for game?

This is a good point. But I believe most states allow hard cast bullets, so I wonder what the deciding factor is.
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