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#191875 - 04/12/18 02:39 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: tradmark]
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 Originally Posted By: tradmark
It actually looks like an x at any given slice thru the vital tissue. Pretty interesting


Any pictures??
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#191877 - 04/12/18 03:33 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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Kinger will post some. I sent some to your cell.

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#191878 - 04/12/18 04:14 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: BRASF0311]
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Here are a couple pictures of what it looks like. Gun used was a GP100 .357 mag 6" barrel. MV was 1520. The deer was running after it had been shot. I hit it at about 35-40 yrds. It only went another 20 yrds after the shot. This was a TX whitetail buck hit was on the liver







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#191879 - 04/12/18 04:58 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: Kinger]
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Did it leave an X in the hide???
For a second there I thought you meant the bullet left the X from philips head when all you really mean is that the liver split like an X...
Right???
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#191880 - 04/12/18 05:07 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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Very interesting! Thanks for posting. Those are the first pics I've seen from the XP bullet terminal performance posted anywhere. While relatively friable, the liver looks a lot like the gel! I would think that the lungs would look similar with a lung shot.
Was this the underwood load that you were using?

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#191881 - 04/12/18 05:23 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: karl]
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yeah this is from the Underwood loaded ammo. I haven't had a chance to shoot through the lungs. This will be a testing point for me this year when I test several bullets for the 357 all are going to be lung shots.

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#191883 - 04/12/18 05:31 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: Kinger]
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I will be interested in your results. I just picked up a similar GP and plan on carrying it during deer season this fall. I'm currently looking at the BB Barnes load, but am not really impressed with the look of the expanded 140gn Barnes bullet. The pedals look awfully thin to me and the diameter doesn't look like it achieves 2x.

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#191884 - 04/12/18 05:34 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
Did it leave an X in the hide???
For a second there I thought you meant the bullet left the X from philips head when all you really mean is that the liver split like an X...
Right???


James I really never look at the hide cause it doesn't tell you anything. The X you get from these bullets is not from the top point of the bullet but from the slots going down, this is what makes the top look like a Phillips head screw driver. I relate how the bullet works to how a boat goes through water using the energy of displacement created by the slots the helps push the energy from the bullet into the tissue and cause damage. That why you get the X cuts internally. That is why I think with the new bullet design they came out with called the extreme defense they made those slots wider.

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#191885 - 04/12/18 05:39 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: Kinger]
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Sorta like this????
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#191886 - 04/12/18 05:44 PM Re: Underwood 480 Ruger Ammo Request **UPDATE** [Re: karl]
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 Originally Posted By: karl
I will be interested in your results. I just picked up a similar GP and plan on carrying it during deer season this fall. I'm currently looking at the BB Barnes load, but am not really impressed with the look of the expanded 140gn Barnes bullet. The pedals look awfully thin to me and the diameter doesn't look like it achieves 2x.


I understand what you mean. I used the Barnes Vortex ammo this year on a WT buck. He was quartering hard towards me and I took a point of the shoulder shot at 25yrds. It completely destroyed the shoulder and the deer ran about 80 yrds and stopped then fell over. What surprised me was that on the autopsy, while the front shoulder bone and all were completely destroyed and not worth saving, the bullet continued to the offside hide. But I was beside myself that after that it just slowed down to much and made a caliber sized hole in the heart. I would hate to think of how long I would have to chase it had I missed the heart. So I will use them again and have confidence they will work, BUT I will also only take the first shot at an animal that is broadside. Also this will be tested this year. Hope that helps. I love the Barnes it does damage just need to put it in the right spot

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