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#191666 - 04/05/18 03:01 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: sixshot]
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 Originally Posted By: sixshot
Greg, I'll take 2 kills with 2 shots anytime & I'll call it success no matter what the bullets look like. You need to send that gun up here to Idaho where I can take better care of it, I'll let you keep the ivory!
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That?s because it is a success.

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#191667 - 04/05/18 03:34 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: Gregg Richter]
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Did you get the PM that I sent you on the 4th?

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#191668 - 04/05/18 03:58 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: Craig44]
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 Originally Posted By: Craig44
More shots = more data. In no way does that mean it "took 13 shots" to kill it.



hey Gregg... I understand about the testing and wanted to ask if they were 13 different bullets?? Had to be something to see with all those guns..
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#191669 - 04/05/18 04:26 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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I guess this is as bad as I`ve experienced with "bullet failure"..

This was a 180gr XTP fired at 1700+ fps MV and hitting a four horn at 40 yards so you can get an idea of impact velocity... He was an extreme quarter toward and at the shot he was lifted up on hind legs and over on his back....The front leg/shoulder bone took the entire impact and what you see is what I found. Shot him through the ribs to finish... Talked with Bob Baker at the YO that year and he said "its a rare shot when an XTP did not penetrate a shoulder bone"... Anyway ...that`s my failure story... You bullet test guys are doing a service for handgunners....
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#191670 - 04/05/18 04:44 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: Craig44]
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 Originally Posted By: Craig44
Sorry but no.


So you were not trying to intentionally wound the longhorn, logic would dictate your 12 hits weren?t effective.

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#191671 - 04/05/18 04:59 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: jwp475]
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Logic left a long time ago when the agenda took over.

Logic would've concluded that a .44 caliber, 355gr WFN with a .340" meplat at 1200fps would be mighty effective and that no critter would know the difference if the bullet was 100fps slower with a .015" bigger meplat. Yet here we are.

Some people see what they want to see, no matter what.

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#191672 - 04/05/18 05:05 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: jwp475]
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James, that XTP has been destructicated! Looks like it hit a piece angle iron. But, it flip over the critter over, that's impressive!

Gregg, tell us about those two bullets (distance/speeds) and what parts they hit. One shows some expansion, but it's not crazy. The other turned into a glob of lead and copper, but looks like it held together.
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#191673 - 04/05/18 05:21 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: TN Lone Wolf]
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 Originally Posted By: TN Lone Wolf
We used to say "magnum primers" when joking about hot topics on this site. Looks like we'll have to start saying "bullet failure."
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Being a member of various forums has convinced me that somewhere there's probably a Bagpipers forum where guys are arguing about whether a plaid kilt should be more red or green
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#191675 - 04/05/18 06:01 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: Craig44]
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 Originally Posted By: Craig44
Logic left a long time ago when the agenda took over.

Logic would've concluded that a .44 caliber, 355gr WFN with a .340" meplat at 1200fps would be mighty effective and that no critter would know the difference if the bullet was 100fps slower with a .015" bigger meplat. Yet here we are.

Some people see what they want to see, no matter what.


Then how do you explain it taking 12 hits from your 44 to get the longhorn on the ground and then a 13th with a 500 to put him out of his misery?

I?m all ears.

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#191677 - 04/05/18 07:18 PM Re: bullet failure [Re: JDK]
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 Originally Posted By: JDK
But, it flip over the critter over, that's impressive!



JDK, After watching that ram flip I looked down at the gun and thought "what the hell do I have here".....
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