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#189185 - 01/28/18 06:18 AM GP 100
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I finally talked myself into shooting a whitetail with the .357 mag. [not trying to start an argument but I believe it is only marginal for deer...JMHO.] I loaded 158 gr Nosler JHP's. The bullets chrono'd 1250fps and were really accurate. I got a chance at a doe at 20 yds broadside. At the shot she jumped and mule kicked and ran off approx. 50 yds and layed down. When I got to her I headshot her. [still not expired] I used a knife to end it. Skinning the deer showed complete bullet failure. The entry hole was approx. 4" round, broke one rib and destroyed one lung with not even a hint of the bullet reaching any further. Turns out when I shot her in the head that bullet blew up also. In the future I will use nothing less than 180 JHP or a hardcast WFN.

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#189186 - 01/28/18 08:06 AM Re: GP 100 [Re: dhom]
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Sounds like a bullet and not a cartridge issue. No?

I think the cartridge has been used effectively on deer sized game by many here. Enough so as to prove it?s an adequate round within its ?scope of authority ?.

Hope you have better luck with your new bullet choices.
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#189187 - 01/28/18 08:31 AM Re: GP 100 [Re: Zee]
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Thanks for sharing the bullet performance! There had been some questions on nosler bullets recently. Congratulations on getting the job done and getting the deer.

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#189189 - 01/28/18 10:10 AM Re: GP 100 [Re: karl]
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I used a .357 on a number of deer and javelina. I used a very hot loaded 125 grain Hornady XTP. This was back in the 80's, so they may be even better now. I had excellent results on shoulder and brisket shots, and even a head shot on a javelina. All one shot kills with perfect bullet performance. The only slug I recovered was a brisket shot on a mature whitetail buck which entered the chest from facing and traveled into the stomach and stopped after destroying a lot of organs. The bullet was beautifully expanded.

That hyper fast load should've really stressed that light slug, but it held up well. I don't think weight was the problem and believe the cartridge is totally adequate, with consideration of its limitations, of course. I recommend the XTP without reservation. I've used the 180 XTP in my .357 Maximum Contender and consider it the ideal bullet in that cartridge, but I can drive it much, much faster than a Magnum can.

It sounds like you did your part well. Don't let a bullet failure sour you on the caliber or your choice of weight. Good luck and please keep us posted.
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#189192 - 01/28/18 11:52 AM Re: GP 100 [Re: JDK]
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If you want to see what a GP100 in .357 is capable of, get you some Swift A-frames. You'll have a change of heart about a 357 mag being "marginal".
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#189193 - 01/28/18 12:51 PM Re: GP 100 [Re: KRal]
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 Originally Posted By: KRal
If you want to see what a GP100 in .357 is capable of, get you some Swift A-frames. You'll have a change of heart about a 357 mag being "marginal".


Agreed, and 1250 fps is fairly anemic for a 158
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#189201 - 01/28/18 07:34 PM Re: GP 100 [Re: s4s4u]
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158 grain XTP at 1500 fps penetrated 18" before coming to rest inside my whitetail buck. Still weighed I believe 141 grains.

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#189212 - 01/29/18 05:56 AM Re: GP 100 [Re: Zee]
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 Originally Posted By: Zee
Sounds like a bullet and not a cartridge issue. No?

I think the cartridge has been used effectively on deer sized game by many here. Enough so as to prove it?s an adequate round within its ?scope of authority ?.

Hope you have better luck with your new bullet choices.
I do put the blame on bullet choice. Maybe my thoughts were wrong about 158 gr HP bullets being the best choice in a revolver at that velocity. I have read many people got great results with that weight bullet although not that brand. It also seems to me 180 gr jacketed would work better in a 357 Maximum or 10" contenders with higher velocities. I do not know how to post a picture but, I do have one after skinning. I just wanted to share these results and maybe save someone else the grief.

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#189217 - 01/29/18 09:29 AM Re: GP 100 [Re: dhom]
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Folks claim to have good luck with other 158gn HP. I would put the blame on that specific brand of Bullet.

I hope Dave Thomas sees this thread as it is pertinent to his earlier question about this nosler bullet.

http://www.handgunhunt.com/forum/ubbthre...true#Post188501

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#189220 - 01/29/18 10:26 AM Re: GP 100 [Re: karl]
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I don't think it is a weight issue, I believe it is a brand issue
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