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#188180 - 01/02/18 10:20 AM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: sw282]
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 Originally Posted By: sw282
l will let my X-Frame 460 PC speak for itself. No Rugers need apply.

As for face book, l don't do ''f-b''... Never have, Never will.

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Keep in mind that Ruger makes six-shot .454 cylinders (SRH) that I will wager will take more pressure than a five-shot X-frame. When Ruger started testing their 465 Carpenter steel six-shot SRH, they ran 300 rounds through it at 92,000 psi - that's 50 rounds a hole. There was no damage done to the revolver. Ruger runs proof loads (50% hotter than standard SAAMI max) through ALL of their firearms.
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#188182 - 01/02/18 11:31 AM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: Whitworth]
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Too many people think they actually learned something from the Ruger/S&W marketing war of the 1980's. I love my S&W's and just picked up yet another N-frame .44. However, they are simply not as strong as Rugers or as suitable to a steady diet of full pressure loads.

Ruger set out to eliminate all the KNOWN shortcomings of the S&W design, especially as it pertains to the .44Mag.

The X-frame is actually a very good testament to the weakness of the S&W design. Look at how huge they had to make it to survive the pressure of the .460 cartridge. It's truly massive, even compared to the Super Redhawk, which only needed a better alloy but still retains six-shot capacity at the same pressure (.454).

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#188194 - 01/02/18 01:40 PM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: 45MAN]
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WHAT IS FACE BOOK? I KNOW MY WIFE IS ON IT ALL THE TIME, I DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO FIND IT. CAN'T BE ANY REAL MAN STUFF ON FACE BOOK..............................


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#188196 - 01/02/18 01:42 PM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: Gregg Richter]
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Some really good stuff here.

Max and Craig44- I think you are both spot on.

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#188197 - 01/02/18 01:46 PM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: Gregg Richter]
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Me too. Ive shot some nice sw 629?s loose in fairly short order and have 3-4 times the rounds in 454 that havent so much as had a hiccup.

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#188199 - 01/02/18 02:11 PM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: tradmark]
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That's why I treat my N-frame .44Mag's like slightly stronger .44Spl's.
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#188230 - 01/03/18 12:07 AM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: Craig44]
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This is why they sell both Fords and Chevys, everybody has their own taste. I have a S&W model 19 for a house gun but my Rugers are what I hunt with. If I had the money I'd own a BFR in 454 Casull.
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#188476 - 01/08/18 09:58 PM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: Whitworth]
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I own and use both. I have used this analogy in the past. "Smiths are Ferraris, and Rugers are F150'"s. Sports cars are fun, but sometimes ya just need a pickup truck.
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#188479 - 01/09/18 11:13 AM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: Grendel]
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That sporty two-seater is a blast until you need to haul a sheet of plywood.
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#188490 - 01/09/18 10:26 PM Re: SMith VS Ruger [Re: Craig44]
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Really all u need to know about strength of n frames is what low pressure level u need to run when u open up that cylinder to a 45 cal. It doesnt take much to blow it up. I have a very very nice and unique model 29 blued performance center gun. Smiths excellent customer service rebuilt it for me after it was shot
Loose with less normal pressure 44 loads than i shoot high pressure 454s outta my srh 454 in a weekend sometimes. It now resides in a special place and doesnt get beat up as it is unique and a very very nice gun. My daughter uses it exclusively until she moved up to a jrh tuned 480 srh.

Think about that, it was shot loose with factory ammo never above 300gr by a 98lb lil lady. Couldnt do that to a ruger.


Edited by tradmark (01/09/18 10:28 PM)

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