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#185775 - 10/30/17 12:45 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: BgDnTX]
Ernie
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 Originally Posted By: BgDnTX
Earnie: Thank you. I have wanted to use a 44 to hunt for a while now. After a couple of hours reading posts, I knew I was in the right place.


I am using the 240 Sierra JHP this year.
Even a 357 Mag with 158's (XTP's, Sierra's or Swift) will kill really fast too.
Shot placement is so key, and deer are not that hard to kill.
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#185778 - 10/30/17 12:57 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: BgDnTX]
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BgDnTX,

Welcome to HHM! It's not much to expound on what wvhittman have given you - by the way, you'll not be better or more info from anyone else!

To give you a visual of what a high shoulder shot will do, I have a video in the members video forum that you can watch...

It's titled "More Land Whitetails".
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#185782 - 10/30/17 01:40 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: KRal]
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Like KRal said, wvhitman is the most experienced handgun hunter on earth. He has seen and done it all. His advice is the gospel 👍

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#185787 - 10/30/17 02:20 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: Franchise]
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bgtx, Watch out if these`s experts start asking to be paid for their advice... since i`am not anywhere close to what they have done, my advice is still free....
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good luck with the whitetails....
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#185796 - 10/30/17 04:00 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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KRal, Franchise, jamesfromjersey: Thank you all for your comments.
I will watch the video and appreciate the info from all you handgun hunters on this site. I feel a little like being in grade school compared to the experience I have encountered here. But confident enough to pull the trigger now. And I will see if I can contribute to this excellent forum.
By coincidence, a friend dropped by and invited me to hunt Axis deer on his ranch not far from where I live. I showed him the Redhawk setup and his eyes got pretty big. Ha.
So, I will get a couple of Whitetail in the freezer and we will see about the Axis.
Thanks again.

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#185798 - 10/30/17 04:07 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: BgDnTX]
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My experience is anything in line with the front leg slightly above half way up the deer will put them down right there and they can only go as far ad they can push with their back legs..

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#185800 - 10/30/17 04:14 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: BushytailBasher]
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BushytailBasher: yes, I believe I have decided on the high shoulder, which I belive you are describing. This may be my best season yet.
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#185803 - 10/30/17 04:17 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: BgDnTX]
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It is thats just how I pick my spot lol inline with the leg about half way between the back and center line on the deer its always worked good for me.. And if you hit high you lose some meat not the whole animal unless you miss clean to far forward and odds are you'll miss clean a little low will usually drop them any ways and too far back is still in a good location... Its as close to perfect shot location as you can get

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#185804 - 10/30/17 04:19 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: BgDnTX]
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I'm hunting in Medina county so I have some idea of the size of deer you're hunting. The wvhitman is spot on with his shoulder shot explanation, and the deer I've shot using this aiming point usually fold/drop immediately. I use the shoulder/high shoulder point of aim when using a large bore revolver, and since the muzzle velocity is usually 1400 fps or less, there isn't much meat loss due to bloodshot/hydrostatic shock. If I'm using a Contender in 309JDJ, or 338JDJ, then I'll hold just behind the shoulder. In 44 magnum I've had good results with the Hornady 240 grain XTP pushed to 1350 to 1400 fps. Excellent expansion at 50 yards and complete penetration every time. I have used lead SWCs and some WFN's, but for our "wirey" whitetails I have been more impressed with the XTPs. If going after a big hog the XTP may not exit with a shoulder shot, but I've usually found them in the hide on the off side, and the animal was anchored where hit. Good luck this season!

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#185805 - 10/30/17 04:22 PM Re: Hello and Info/Help Please [Re: BushytailBasher]
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BgDnTX
Ok now you know where to shoot. The guys giving that info are some of the best. Now if you want to use the 429244 cast bullet you have my blessing on it. Because Ray Thompson designed it and it works good. You can load it with 9.5 - 10 grains of Unique for a good load that will take care of the Deer we have here in Texas. 2400 is another powder that you can use and it is very good in the 44 mag. Start at 18.0 grains and you can go up from there a little. You might be able to get 20.0 grains without any pressure signs but do go slow. With both powders a regular primer should work fine for you. The 2400 will give you more velocity.
A lot of variations come into play here with loads pressures, and velocity. With the 7.5" barrel you should get in the neighborhood of 1100FPS with the Unique (10.0) and you might be able to go as high as 1400FPS with 20.0grs of 2400
Both loads will get the job done and it is up to you of course how hot you want to run. Best of luck with your hunt.

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