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#184987 - 10/15/17 05:25 PM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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James, going to order the .357 180 a frames for the 357 mag and the 300gr 45 for the 45 colt bisley hunter. Should make for good whitetail and hog ammo.
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#185020 - 10/16/17 09:41 AM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: cfish2]
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 Originally Posted By: cfish2
Whit, what base is that on your handgun? I don't like the ruger rings on my 45 colt bisley hunter. Looking for a more secure base.


That is a Weigand no drill, no tap base that was made specifically for the .454 and .480 Ruger Super Blackhawks with a 6 1/2-inch barrel.
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#185577 - 10/26/17 09:29 PM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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 Originally Posted By: jamesfromjersey
PS.... Eric, I have to ask why you use the heading of
"Mr. McPorkchop"??? Sounds GREAT....
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James,

Well since you asked nicely, one of my wife's friends was joking one day about some chiseled guy that walked by that was, in her words, "A big hunk of man meat". I told the friend she shouldn't objectify that poor guy, and that she doesn't know what it's like for us fine specimens of utter manliness to walk down the street with women lusting after us...

We all had a good laugh because I work a field job that requires long pants long sleeves and boots, so I don't get a ton of sun on my legs, and have a farmers tan, and I used to be a tall slender guy, so not only am I not particularly chiseled, I'm fairly pale when not wearing a shirt or in a pair of shorts. So when my wife's friend finished laughing she said well if he is Mr. ManMeat you must be Mr.McPorkchop, being pale white like a porkchop but like a cheap low quality knockoff McDonald's version that only resembles it in name.

Since then the name sort of stuck and my wife calls me that all the time, in a good natured way. I think.


Eric.
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#185610 - 10/27/17 03:26 PM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: MrMcPorkchop]
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Eric, I would have expected nothing less...... Thanks for taking the time...
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#185699 - 10/29/17 12:40 PM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: Gary]
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In my humble .44 magnum experience, the A-frame is clearly more accurate than the XTP in similar weights and velocities, but much more expensive and the theoretical terminal ballistics (i.e. in wet newsprint) are definitively comparable. I've never used an A-frame on game but have used XTPs many times - on deer-sized game, that is - and they have never failed me. Would not use an XTP on elk or moose though, as they have bones and joints that can be very tough.


 Originally Posted By: Gary
I'm not a fan of XTP's at all. I rarely see one that hasn't shed the jacket & core if it hits anything of substance. The A-frame is the best bullet out there right now IMHO.
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#185702 - 10/29/17 02:57 PM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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Was re-reading this thread this morning while having my coffee and have talked myself into ordering some of the A-Frames for my 357 Mag.


I already have some 158 XTP's loaded up that my GP100 shoots very well, but I'm eager to see how the 180 gr. A-Frames shoot, as I generally prefer heavy for caliber bullets, and the A-Frames look to be a good blend of expansion and penetration based on everyone's success with them.


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#185837 - 10/30/17 11:52 PM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: Mikewin]
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 Originally Posted By: Mikewin
...Would not use an XTP on elk or moose though, as they have bones and joints that can be very tough...


If you're going to use an XTP, and not an A-Frame or Barnes, once you get to game as big and big-boned as elk and moose, I'd strongly recommend using the XTP-MAG. They have a much thicker jacket than the standard XTP and are rated for much higher velocities.


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#185845 - 10/31/17 09:45 AM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: MrMcPorkchop]
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 Originally Posted By: MrMcPorkchop
 Originally Posted By: Mikewin
...Would not use an XTP on elk or moose though, as they have bones and joints that can be very tough...


If you're going to use an XTP, and not an A-Frame or Barnes, once you get to game as big and big-boned as elk and moose, I'd strongly recommend using the XTP-MAG. They have a much thicker jacket than the standard XTP and are rated for much higher velocities.


Eric.


I have seen the XTP Mags fail pretty miserably over the last couple of years. I would go with the A-frame personally.
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#186080 - 11/06/17 02:55 PM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: Whitworth]
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In 2013 I posted a group I shot with the 325gr. a-frame out of my FA in 454 that was 11/16" @ 100 yards. Yep I'd say they're accurate.

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#186081 - 11/06/17 03:20 PM Re: a-frame accuracy [Re: wheelguns]
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 Originally Posted By: wheelguns
In 2013 I posted a group I shot with the 325gr. a-frame out of my FA in 454 that was 11/16" @ 100 yards. Yep I'd say they're accurate.


I would say you're accurate as well!
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