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#182084 - 07/19/17 03:44 PM Hand Position
bamabow
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Hey guys I am trying to develop a more consistent grip. My groups are reasonably tight but they tend to move around a bit. I will shoot 2 or 3 shots well then sit the gun down. The next group will be basically as tight but with the point of impact is a couple of inches away. It could be a lot of things I presume but something is telling me it my hand position. I attempted to purchase a hogue grip which I thought would help but they don't make for a ruger bisley hunter. I just don't seem to be able to find something that feels exactly the same every time. Any help with shot sequences or hand position would be greatly appreciated.

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#182085 - 07/19/17 04:27 PM Re: Hand Position [Re: bamabow]
REDHAWK1954
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I have had the same problem with revolvers but not with my contenders.
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#182086 - 07/19/17 04:39 PM Re: Hand Position [Re: REDHAWK1954]
karl
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I have a a similar problem with contenders if I don't shoot them the same way. My POI moves up a few inches at 100 yards if I don't apply consistent downward pressure to the rest/support/bipod when I'm shooting. Lots of practice and conscious thought about grip and pressures is how I deal.

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#182087 - 07/19/17 05:57 PM Re: Hand Position [Re: bamabow]
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Is this when shooting off-hand or rested? If rested, on what?
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#182089 - 07/19/17 09:19 PM Re: Hand Position [Re: s4s4u]
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Yes on a caldwell rest. It is just a simple tripod looking rest that sits on a heavy shooting table.

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#182094 - 07/20/17 03:27 PM Re: Hand Position [Re: bamabow]
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I'm not sure but I do know that if you rest the gun on the butt and shoot, it will impact differently if you rest just the forend BUT also try and provide the same pressure with each shot. The gun will recoil differently based on how you rest the gun or support hand. This probably isn't clear but you have to find that consistent hold.
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#182102 - 07/20/17 08:26 PM Re: Hand Position [Re: bamabow]
s4s4u
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 Originally Posted By: bamabow
Yes on a caldwell rest. It is just a simple tripod looking rest that sits on a heavy shooting table.

Bamabow


Is the rest surface soft or hard? Do you rest the butt of the gun or hold it in your hands? The amount of "load" you put on the rest can affect the POI as much as the grip. This can be magnified by the firmness of the rest surface. Also, often folks who rest a gun don't keep consistant grip tension as they are not holding the entire weight of the gun in their hands.

I have a front rest that consists of a chunk of truck tire inner tube filled with styrofoam packing peanuts and the ends tied off with hose clamps. I hold the gun in my hands with my wrists setting on a rear bag. When I "rest" a revolver I hold it as if I were going to shoot off-hand and slowly and ever so lightly lower the barrel/frame onto the front bag, just to steady the wobble a bit. I don't put pressure on the bag, which keeps my POI consistant and unchanged relative to shooting off-hand.

Consistancy is the key, and it applies to every part of the equation.
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#182108 - 07/21/17 09:46 AM Re: Hand Position [Re: s4s4u]
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I use as high a grip as possible on my guns.I also run a grip with a filler behind the trigger guard to protect my knuckle from the trigger guard. Eagle grips offers one for the Bisley. It did require a small amount of hand fitting.I try to align the bore straight up my forearm every shot,try placing a small line in ink on top of your hand or glove to line up with the seam of the grip for awhile.It gives you a consistent reference point for alignment.Then be consistent with hand pressure and rest it the same way,same place every time. I like a firm grip,just not so much that you induce tremor in the hand. Consistency is the key but it will not come over night,or stay with you if you do not work on it always.
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#182111 - 07/21/17 01:17 PM Re: Hand Position [Re: junebug]
bamabow
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Thanks for all the help.

Bamabow

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