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#179817 - 03/28/17 02:16 PM Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up
Ernie
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This question only relates to the 357 Mag or MAX (List your MV) and only for the Swift A-Frame bullets.

For mule deer and on up in size which of the two do you prefer more and why please: 158 Grain or the 180 grain?

Really looking for those who have used both, but if you have used one of the weights I would be interested in your thoughts on it's actual performance on game.

Not interested in water jugs or other media.
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#179821 - 03/28/17 03:31 PM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: Ernie]
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Hoping you get some qualified replies here Ernie because I've heard so many good things about the Swift A Frame bullets. I'm guessing Max has used them on something & will chime in, he's a big A Frame fan.
From my limited experience with the 357 Maximum in a 10 1/2 Ruger & 180 gr. Cast (4 Mule deer) I would not hesitate to use that 180 gr. A Frame bullet on deer or elk at reasonable distances. Distance always comes down to the shooter, not the load, at least in my experience.

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#179822 - 03/28/17 03:38 PM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: sixshot]
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 Originally Posted By: sixshot
Hoping you get some qualified replies here Ernie because I've heard so many good things about the Swift A Frame bullets. I'm guessing Max has used them on something & will chime in, he's a big A Frame fan.
From my limited experience with the 357 Maximum in a 10 1/2 Ruger & 180 gr. Cast (4 Mule deer) I would not hesitate to use that 180 gr. A Frame bullet on deer or elk at reasonable distances. Distance always comes down to the shooter, not the load, at least in my experience.

Dick


I'm a recent convert, Dick. I have only used them a couple of times over the years, but saw how they performed on some big bovines recently and was impressed. That said, I have never used them in .357, but can't imagine them not working well.
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#179828 - 03/28/17 06:24 PM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: Whitworth]
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Ernie, I`ve only taken one mulie using a 210gr A-frame from my FA`s 41mag
The shot was a broadside right at 100yds with complete penetration
I also loaded the 158gr A-frame for my .357 S&W m-27 with 8 3/8" barrel for whitetail and smaller boar but have not had the chance to use the handload. However, I would use the 180gr A-frame in a 357 for the extra weight if hunting mule deer...good hunting
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#179858 - 03/29/17 08:25 AM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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I am all ears also on the A-frame's in 357 magnum. I do plan on running some head to head tests this summer on some wet newsprint between the xtp's and A-frames. my wife hunts with a GP and my oldest will be hunting this year starting out with my Blackhawk in 357...

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#179928 - 03/31/17 06:40 PM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: rob-c]
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 Originally Posted By: rob-c
I do plan on running some head to head tests this summer on some wet newsprint between the xtp's and A-frames.


roc-c, this is an article showing recovered A-frame and XTP bullets from 200+ lb. size animals...there`s a caliber size difference but it still shows what happens to these bullets after taking these critters and how they will perform....

http://www.handgunhunt.com/promo/membership/features/readNewArticle.php?oid=84
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#179955 - 04/01/17 05:56 PM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: jamesfromjersey]
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That is a very helpful article.

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#179958 - 04/01/17 09:08 PM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: spinsail]
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thanks james
but I am still planning on some testing, if for anything else because it will be fun.....

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#179959 - 04/01/17 11:13 PM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: rob-c]
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Taken several whitetail with 158 and 180gr.xtps in the 357 mag, but no aframes. Would be very interested to see how they do.

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#179965 - 04/02/17 02:22 PM Re: Question Swift A-Frame 357-mule deer on up [Re: wheelguns]
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I have taken a few whitetails with the 180 A-Frame. Gun was a 8" Colt Python and the deer were taken in the 65 to 105 yard range from an elevated stand. I didn't chrono the loads but a good guess would be they were in the 1200 to 1225 fps range. All shots were complete pass throughs. The bucks were an average of 160 lbs.
I haven't used the 158's.


Edited by Dekker (04/02/17 02:23 PM)

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